Perch "The Thoughtful Pause Podcast"
The concept of Perch is simple yet profound. It represents more than just a moment of stillness; it embodies a philosophy of life. Perch stands for Pause, Evaluate, Responses to Circumvent, Harm. It’s a call to rise above the noise and seek higher ground to gain a clearer view of the world around us. When we Perch, we create space to see the bigger picture, understand different perspectives, and make decisions that reflect our highest values.
Navigating complexities with empathy is one of the most significant challenges we face today, and it is the ability to understand and empathize with those who hold different views. Our experiences and backgrounds deeply influence our beliefs and the environments we are exposed to. Where you sit determines what you see, and what you see determines what you do. When we Perch, we acknowledge this truth and strive to see the world through the lens of others.
Perch "The Thoughtful Pause Podcast"
Soul Searching: Understanding Our Unique Health and Wellness Needs with Dr. Kristin Wild
Have you ever considered how the sun, or lack thereof, can impact your mental health? Today, we’re joined by the insightful Dr. Kristin Wild, who illuminates this overlooked environmental factor and its surprising role in depression rates. We journey through the map of America, examining the disparities in sunlight exposure and their potential impact on mental health.
Venturing into natural medicines, we explore the fertile ground of alternative therapies with Dr. Wild. As Canada boldly strides towards decriminalizing certain plant medicines, we delve into the rich history and cultural significance of these potent remedies. Shattering common perceptions, we discuss the stark contrast between legal and potentially harmful plant medicines and question why alcohol might be more detrimental than other substances that have been legalized. Prepare to rethink your understanding of health and wellness.
Our illuminating conversation then takes an intriguing turn to unravel the intricate web of generational trauma. We question the shifting environmental sensitivities of our generation and the varying work ethics across generations. As we ponder the escalating mental health crisis in the United States, we explore the potential of plant medicines as a possible solution. Wrapping up our enlightening chat, we urge you to tune into your soul's unique needs and contemplate what your soul may truly desire. Don't miss out on this deep dive into various critical topics that shape our collective well-being.
Let's all keep searching to expand our view!
Well, welcome back Perchers. And, as many of you may remember, we have the pleasure of spending time with Dr Kristen Wilde, phd. For those of you who missed the first session, please go back and listen to it. It was definitely worth listening to. So good that we decided to keep Kristen on for a little bit longer here. So, kristen, welcome, welcome back. And for those of you who missed, brief bio Kristen is on Zoom.
Speaker 1:And she's on Zoom Again technology. What a rush. So Kristen is an award-winning holistic health educator, entrepreneur and speaker. She lives in Canada, but we won't hold it against her. She holds a PhD in metaphysics and diploma in applied psychology. She's the creator of the therapy modality called awareness therapy and founder of modern health solution best known for helping people navigate chronic physical and mental health conditions and for her work in helping women and children escape and heal from domestic abuse. So welcome back, kristen. Great to have you back with us.
Speaker 3:Thanks for having me again. So glad to be with you too. I'm entertaining, I'm sure it will be.
Speaker 2:I just think this is one that they definitely want to see on YouTube and see our face, because your face and your smile just calms me, by the way. So your voice is great and your words are amazing, but your face and maybe it's the plant, I don't know what it is, but it puts me in a zen spirit right now.
Speaker 1:Bring up an interesting point Are plants healing? Do plants help?
Speaker 3:heal. I think so, I feel like because she can't keep on alive for more than 30 seconds.
Speaker 1:They like die in real life. You could just see them just die.
Speaker 2:I literally have a black thumb.
Speaker 3:I was that way too, and now I don't like I barely even water these things and they just don't lie to us, to plastic, aren't they? Yeah right, this is the tip of the iceberg. Of how many plants I have a problem, you guys?
Speaker 1:Well, come talk to us, A boy told me if you have a problem.
Speaker 2:That's what you do.
Speaker 1:I'll give you more problems Speaking of problems. So one of the things that we wanted to talk to today is and we talked about it briefly last time, but about depression in general, and what is depression? And I don't want to get too clinical here, but in happy meal terms, which is what men talk in.
Speaker 2:Don't put men in a category with you. There are men and there's Toby. We talk, yeah right, that's in Toby terms, so define what depression is for us.
Speaker 1:How do we know if we're depressed?
Speaker 3:Yeah, life's not going as expected for a prolonged period of time.
Speaker 1:Okay, well, she hasn't won the lottery, so is she depressed? I mean, she has to live with me.
Speaker 2:That should be depressing enough, I'm depressed because the previous episode she told me that my fried chicken wasn't my friend. Those weren't your words, but that's what I heard.
Speaker 1:So every morning that Trisha wakes up with me and sees me there, she's depressed. Is that what we're saying? Because life isn't going the way she expected it to go?
Speaker 3:I am not touching, oh good idea.
Speaker 1:That's probably all right. So one of the things that I found that was interesting is an article that talks about the most depressed countries in the world, and my first thought was okay, here we go, we're going to, we're going to bash the Western countries again.
Speaker 1:It's not it's not, and it's interesting the countries that made the top 10 list, and I think there's something to be said for why these countries made the top 10 list. I'm going to read them and I think we'll all figure it out. So the first one's Lithuania, iran, morocco, bahrain, tunisia, palestine, portugal, greece, and number one is, of all places, greenland Greenland. Now, I think there are about 11 people that live in Greenland, so maybe three of them are depressed.
Speaker 2:Everybody wants to go to.
Speaker 1:Greece. But I guess the question is is it environmental that you think depression? Is it? You know, greenland, obviously. What do they get during during certain times of the year? A couple of hours worth of sunlight.
Speaker 2:They don't get Greenland.
Speaker 1:No, it's pretty Icelandic and Greenland or coldlandy. Is the environment part of one of the reasons that we get depressed?
Speaker 3:Yes, so there's several factors for depression when we're talking about this, and seriously is there is several factors. So we're we're dealing with all kinds of things, and so sunlight is very important for us. It's so important for us, so it's like we are part of nature and so, yes, where I live, we get a cloud cover in the winter and the winter blues are legit, like half the town leaves in the winter, and so that, and being connected with the earth, those environmental factors, when we just look at that as foundational, the earth emits negative ions. And when you think about when we're on indoors, our feet are not touching the earth and so those negative ions actually help to eliminate inflammation and clear our body on the electromagnetic field that runs through our body. So, when we look at the basic nature of things, yes, that's going to affect our mental health because it affects how our hormones are produced and released and, as we know, are those hormones that are produced and released. They affect our mood, they affect our range.
Speaker 1:So sunlight is a big deal. It really is a big deal. Okay, because you hear about things like in Seattle that people get depressed because of days after days of cloudy weather and all of that, and so that that is a natural phenomenon.
Speaker 2:I did not, it did not dawn on me to you, just said that because I lived all over in America. Now, contrast, I lived in Minnesota. It's snow and it's cold. Lived in Michigan. It snows and it's cold, so on paper it's similar, but Minnesota has more sunlight than Michigan. And what do they say about men up people from Minnesota, Minnesota, nice, that is literally the term that they use and I never made the connection that they, because I didn't notice till I point out to people in Michigan they are unaware. I was like you realize the sun comes out, but not like all day. In Minnesota it's so cold but you have sunshine all day, so it matters, it does.
Speaker 1:So as part of that therapy, do you suggest to people that they walk around on the ground in bare feet, or I mean, is that really totally okay? Okay, okay Because totally bare feet. Yeah, we'll walk around and bare feet here, see culturally.
Speaker 3:So I have my feet on an earthing mat. I have my feet on an earthing mat right now.
Speaker 1:Wow, what's an earthing mat. So, is that like a litter?
Speaker 3:box, so an earthing mat. Let me tell you.
Speaker 1:Okay sorry.
Speaker 3:And they're really affordable, super easy. You just plug it into the grounding prong on a plug-in, on an outlet and then it goes into the mat and it releases the negative ions and that comes up through your body. Yeah, easy peasy, yeah. And it also helps us because, you think about, we have electromagnetic fields around our bodies. So this has been measured for a very long time. It's not often talked about, but we do. We emit these electromagnetic fields and they're like an antenna. They react with other things going on Wi-Fi, radio waves. It's going through these bodies and we have these electromagnetic fields. So when we're grounded, our bodies can way better manage all of those fields going on around us.
Speaker 1:So do you feel different by keeping your feet on an earthing mat than you would just kind of hang it out? I would say so, but it's also I do several things.
Speaker 3:And so it's like really staying in tune with nature and realizing, when we really embody that, that we are part of nature. Yes, we have this higher consciousness thing going on where and at the same time we are living in human bodies. They're part of nature and I didn't make the rules, but I definitely know how to follow them. And when you think about when we lived in more tribal times, how are we living? We were connected to the earth, we were in the sunlight, we were in the water and so we evolved as part of that. It's part of who we are and necessary to our health.
Speaker 2:Oh my God, this is. It sounds really simple, but this is really evolving for me because culturally, we all look at our feet in relation to earth differently. Meaning like an Asian culture is common when you come in, you take your shoes off. You don't, and in the African-American culture we talk about each other. If you don't have shoes on your feet in the house, if you go outside and Toby is all over the yard, around everywhere, we're like nothing on the floor that would drive me crazy Because culturally it's just like you don't do that.
Speaker 2:I have people that literally keep their slippers at the end of the bed and they feet never really touch the ground. So that's something to think about it. It really is, but put in reverse of that, tribally, when they tell us you know, when you want to get back to mother earth and connected, to take your shoes off so you could be one with the earth.
Speaker 3:So this is yeah, and there's major science around that.
Speaker 2:Major science around it, but I hear you, yeah, so that's again.
Speaker 3:it's the entrainment, right, Right. So it's like there's. I live at a house that's on a beach. There's sand through my house all the time and I love it. It's one of those things. It's like this fun, quirky thing about our house is there's sand everywhere.
Speaker 2:And that I would drive me crazy.
Speaker 3:My feet are always covered in sand. Yeah, they would drive you crazy and it's just like our entrainment and our belief systems right. And what we've grown up with. That's true.
Speaker 1:So you talked in the last session we talked about about I'll call it an alternative medicine, if you will and you said that there's actual tribal groups that come through Canada now and are teaching different practices and things like that. Get into that a little bit more and talk about how that program works, what you've seen and maybe some success cases around that.
Speaker 3:Oh sure, yes. So around the people that are now teaching tribal remedies and connectedness, they're like in my sphere. So, from my point of view, with teaching, I really teach from the logic and science of things, and then people naturally just become more spiritual because they become more attuned, and then I get to have these connections with people that are teaching this and are just this is what they do. And so, for instance, there's the Kuntanawa tribe from Peru. They're currently traveling all through North America and they're taking people on spirit journeys, things. You know, these experiences with the plants from the Amazon that they've now brought for people to experience, and there's so many people that have found relief through these different types of plants.
Speaker 3:And there is some organizations out there now working with veterans you know people from the police force, people from the military, ptsd cases where they are going through these experiences. And it just supercharges the cells. Essentially, when you look at it as cellular level, it goes through and helps clear out those cells and so that the receptors are back to new, and so it helps clear out these trauma, traumatizations that people have been living with chronically, and so this is huge for the mental health movement. I've heard so many people say that it's like going to five years of therapy in four hours.
Speaker 1:Is there medical evidence to support this, or is it more of a just? Oh, there is okay.
Speaker 3:Tons, tons. So I'm in Canada. Very different scenario they have decriminalized drugs here, so you can possess anything psilocybin, cannabis, cannabis is legal here and you can even have possession of cocaine, heroin et cetera, and so well, this is the thing is Just, if they legalize cocaine and heroin, most people aren't gonna just start doing it. It's like obviously no, like I'm like these chemical things do not do well in the body, they don't. But when you look at the natural things they're actually counter addictive. So psilocybin, ayahuasca's, one ibupane.
Speaker 2:Ayahuasca's big.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's big. A lot of these plant medicines are actually legal in Canada and the US and some are not. It just depends. But aside from that, there's a lot of studies going on here in Canada because they have decriminalized things. So we're seeing ketamine clinics pop up and it's amazing what the results are. Amazing.
Speaker 2:So it's funny I do. I have to say this because for a lot of cultures they've been around all the time and so a lot of things. And I remember my grandma used to say, because we would have well every month you would call a family cleansing. It was just herbs and things fresh and we all had to take it and honestly, we weren't sick in going through those things. But the problem with it become, if you come from in the Asian culture they still have a lot of it. In Hispanic culture it's still a lot of it. So now that it's more mainstream there's we can debate why wasn't it more mainstream all the time? Because it's been there.
Speaker 2:The problem with a lot of the things that we used to have is not so healthy or organic. So like when my grandmother would go to give things, it wasn't in its purest state. So they're analyzed or up. But this is not new to a lot of cultures. A lot of these things. Now they're saying, well, of course, no doctors, really they kind of want you to come to them, and not that we're not discouraging people going to doctors still go. We're saying that there are natural things that's been around since the beginning of time. Culturally. I've been aware of a lot of them. They've been in my family and issues in a lot of cultures, so it's not as nuanced as people make it.
Speaker 1:Sorry. So how does the government of Canada look at some of these? I think I'll call them alternative medicines. Are they supported within your health program? Are these outside of your NASH? Because, again, for those of our listeners who don't know, the medical insurance program in Canada it's much more institutionalized than it is here in the States. Right, everybody? It's a right as a Canadian citizen to have health care. So do I have that right? Okay, so do these programs fall within the purview of those health care programs?
Speaker 3:They're moving towards it. So some things are still quite gray and some things are full out backed by the government. So they're just they're making the steps. And one thing that was kind of smart about that is with the cannabis it helped get rid of a whole bunch of drug crimes.
Speaker 1:And then money. They're too busy eating pizza. Yeah, so it's like I'm sorry.
Speaker 3:So this is the thing is so now the government earns the income off of selling cannabis instead of it being run underground, right, and so then that was kind of the opening path to where we're going. So the other kind of plant medicines they're called are psychedelic therapies. There's also plant medicines that are not psychoactive, that are quite effective, and so it's like moving more towards institutionalizing it, and also that doesn't always work like you talked about. So it's really this fine line. So it's going to be interesting to see kind of what happens through the whole experience.
Speaker 1:It was funny. I read something the other day that said that, of all things that we could have made legal, alcohol was probably the worst, because alcohol makes you aggressive. Alcohol gets you, you're angry, and if you drink more you get angrier, whereas I joke about it. But you did cannabis, what's the worst thing that's gonna happen? Somebody's gonna fall asleep on your rug or eat your pizza, but you know so. It really is not an aggressive drug, whereas alcohol is, so it makes sense.
Speaker 2:And I just want to piggyback cause. This is part two, and so the first is it really necessary? That was the first one where we focused more so on, and we're still doing it on the making. One of the necessities is our mental health and well-being. I think, and what I'm hearing from this part two is it really necessary? In regards to and you said this on the previous episode the end of the or? Why can't we consider we don't have to agree, but there are possibilities?
Speaker 2:And when it comes down to our health, our well-being, why be so siloed in our approaches?
Speaker 2:Why can't we consider other things could be a necessity too, because what works for one doesn't work for all, we found out. When it comes down to we hear the surveys all the time it's a reason why certain groups and certain races suffer from certain diseases in a higher amount. So to me I'm not a doctor and I'm not trying to play one, don't want to be one. Love you, you're great, but to me it's just a little common sense have to come in there. So if, genetically, certain races and groups are disposed to certain things, that means that certain things you're more apt to receive, then maybe certain treatments may be better for you than other, because it's like balance right, because if this didn't work for you or this worked against you on a higher number, maybe this may be better suited for you. So it's just to do whatever we have to do to be healthier and hold and we said even checking in with all of it, yeah there's a middle yeah, like you said, there's some that are necessities.
Speaker 3:There's some things that are necessities sunlight, water, food, sleep these things are necessities. And then we have other things that go along with it and it's going to resonate with people. And it might resonate with one individual, it might resonate at this point in time in their life and not at all in another point in time in their life, absolutely.
Speaker 3:Sometimes the tool is there for a moment in time and it's just to help in that moment. So when you talk about meditation, well, there are certain times in your life where meditation is not going to help. When you are on that hamster wheel and in severe anxiety, new ouch, that's because you're way too in your head, because when we focus on our thoughts, they get stronger, and so it's actually the walking meditation and interrupting the thoughts is probably going to be the better route, right? And then sitting with them.
Speaker 3:And then, as you start to calm, then meditation might become something that's a benefit.
Speaker 2:Let me say this one thing, toby, and then I promise you I'm going to be quiet for a second. I do want to say, because what we do and now we're in Alabama, we are in the South, and this is no offense to anyone, but I can say this growing up in a church and my grandfather was a Baptist minister it goes back to sometimes it's not enough to tell people to go to church, you know. It's not enough to say you know, we'll just go to church and just pray, pray and exercise and talk to someone, and I think I hope that's the message that resonates with everyone. It's not one of the other, you know. We have all of these things, so I really want to bring that home.
Speaker 1:So one of the things that I was looking at before and you talk about the environmental aspect of it obviously we talked a little bit about last time about how COVID really did, you know, did a number on a lot of people, where it isolated us and really took us out of our relationship circles. And even now that we're back to some degree of normalcy, we haven't returned to that level of extent. And one of the things you talked about was, while technology has been great in many cases, it still does disconnect us a little bit. What's the strength of human interaction versus? And we're talking about on Zoom today? But if you were here, would our communication be different? Would our level of satisfaction with that communication be different? Would our level of mental connection or happiness be any higher? Is there any evidence to support being in person as opposed to being remote?
Speaker 3:There is something about being in person, and also there is something called quantum entanglement, and so this is a really entanglement.
Speaker 1:I think I had a relationship like that years ago. Yeah, oh, sorry.
Speaker 3:Yeah, Well, it's actually. You're not far off.
Speaker 1:There were many women. It was a quantum entanglement. Yeah, live Anyway. Okay, all right.
Speaker 3:And so with quantum entanglement Einstein called it the spooky science at a distance. And so it's this interconnection of these particles, nanoparticles, and that they behave in conjunction with one another. So when we connect, we are literally connecting energetically and there's no such thing as time or distance that separate us when we connect energetically. And that can be something that's like whoa, so far out there too, so many people. But this is happening, mm-hmm. We are moving from the Newtonian scientific system and it still exists. Those laws of science are still there, and now we're getting into and into the quantum, the unseen. So there's a lot to be said about interacting digitally, absolutely. That is very similar to connecting in person, so it can still create, but it's that what is the intention and the integrity of the connection. That's what matters.
Speaker 1:You mentioned something last time we spoke about how does somebody know if they need help, and one of the things that's interesting is there's all kinds of statistics around different age demographics and one of the things that I found fascinating was I really felt like the younger demographic would be more apt to look for mental health, and one of the things that the statistics I found was quite the opposite that as people got older they were more willing to seek mental health assistance.
Speaker 1:And I don't know if it's that you're getting to know yourself better or you start to recognize these patterns. But are there things and you said before one of the things if you're not happy, which obviously is a very large topic, I mean I could be not happy because I'm out of ice cream at home and yet I'm not going to go seek mental health. I may go to the grocery store but I probably won't seek mental health. So are there things that you look at in symptoms of people where you say you should probably go talk to somebody about those types of challenges that you're having, some of those signs?
Speaker 3:Well, the majority of us have mental health stuff going on because we are traumatized generation, raised by a traumatized generation, raised by a traumatized generation, even if we only go back three generations, let's think about this. So it's like where's our great grandparents? Okay, well, they grew up through World War One. It was pretty intense times and it was really even okay. A hundred years ago children were still working in mines and they were not really treated as human beings. So imagine being raised in that scenario. It's pretty dire situation.
Speaker 3:Then they had children and then in their children went through the Great Depression and World War II, and so they grew up with this mentality. So they were like, hey, we kept you alive. And then these people that grew up through the Depression and World War II they're like, hey, we fed you, put a roof over your head and gave you an education. You're welcome. And then they had children. So their children are our parents and so they were raised in that environment and they kind of went something's not right here. And there's a big movement of equality between the sexes we're still working that out A quality between races we're still working that out. And so we're kind of that generation where the hammer got so hard we had no choice but to wake up. We probably wouldn't have on our own accord, but it got so uncomfortable.
Speaker 1:What you're bringing here brings and I couldn't help it right when you're saying it Our parents and our parents, and our parents and our parents we talked about this a little bit last time headed so much harder than we do now. Are we just getting soft? Do we need? To just suck it up.
Speaker 3:No, it's the hierarchy of needs. Okay, no, we're starting to tap into the deeper sense of what it means to be human. Say that again, out of survival.
Speaker 2:That's it. Okay, say that again please. It's the hierarchy, because I think you said it. You said it so simplistic, but I don't think people realize the weight behind it. Could you go back to the hierarchy of needs and just?
Speaker 3:spend on it. Yes, so we're moving out of the survival and, even though we see these constant threats come out, we become immune. So we're like, okay, cool, it's like our generation is hilarious, because they're like World War III is on its way. And we're like, okay, they're like aliens are real. We're like cool, and it's like neat, because we're so desensitized and that's part of human evolution. We're in it, and it's like hard to see the forest through the trees, but we're in a spontaneous evolution.
Speaker 3:Our mind has the ability to evolve into a more ethereal tapped in being, and it feels weird for us Because we're all waking up together. And we're like you guys, is anyone else having this experience? Because it's getting weird in here, right? And so we had no choice but to wake up because we became so mentally and physically out of alignment that it just like popped us out. And we're like, okay, what have you figured out so far? What have you figured out so far? Let's work together, let's. Let's do this thing. So the majority of people have mental health issues. To bring it fully back to your question, the majority of us, even people that are highly aware I have so many aspects to still work on, like there's some I've mastered, there's others oh my gosh, have you seen my dating? It's, it's, it's out of control, it's ridiculous.
Speaker 1:I was Canadian. Men, come down south.
Speaker 2:But I want to again, yeah, and I want to just say again, I'm saying exactly what you're going to say in a much simpler way. I think that so when we talk about generational, I'm going to make it super simple, meaning that each generation, you know, just like, think of it as evolution when we went from like walking on our floors to right. So as we evolve, when we start seeing that, hey, the generation before me walk with the limp, so when we start to see it, it's hard to not, they didn't even realize it, like our parents, they didn't realize the trauma that they were in. So once it's revealed to us, it was like then, when our generation, it was kind of revealed to be like, wow, that was kind of really messed up and that's all we did. So then we passed it on to our kids generation, like, well, we acknowledged that it was messed up, but you didn't do anything about it.
Speaker 2:So now that generation, so that goes, that need right, because once we start exposing, you know you can't. The saying goes, you can't change once you don't acknowledge. So wasn't you talk about a generation that couldn't acknowledge anything because they didn't know the depth and the gravity of what they were going through, and once so, each generation is not that they're getting softer, it's the needs are being much more evident and apparent, and now the work begins.
Speaker 1:So one of the things that I don't know if you have this going on in Canada, but there's huge debates in our country, even huge debates here, about where is here, right here, right here, listening to this thing. So they've been over here between you and me here, you know you and I.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that too Okay, and a lot of it is to do with, you know, whether it's it's heady topics like gun control down here in the States and obviously things like that, and on one side they'll say that it's the gun and then the other side will say, well, it's the person. You know, without the person you can't have a gun, without the gun can. So one of the things that's become more of a topic here in conversation is mental health as a whole. We have large homelessness problems here in the United States. You look at a majority of the homelessness situation. They are meant there are mental health issues. As a as a as a person from Canada, do you guys find those same issues and, if so, how are you dealing with them? And why can't you hit us over the head and teach us what, what the hell we should do about it?
Speaker 3:No, we're pretty parallel here. This is, this is people. People are going to keep people, and that's the thing. Some people are going to wake up, do their own thing, find peace in their lives, and so the best thing we can do is stay in our lane. If you can't, if it's something that you can't do anything about and it's out of your control, then it's not your aspect to work on right, and so it depends. If you're feeling called to help in a certain area, then just do what you have control over help where you can help, and otherwise let it be because people are going to keep fighting about stuff. They are 94% of human history we have been at war and the other 6% we were too sick to fight Like it's just like that's a good one.
Speaker 3:This is just people and it's getting better. We are evolving, but there's still going to be people like that, no matter what, even if the majority of the world is like at peace and can agree on these topics. This is part of being human. Is we're just going to keep seeing that? So, when that's part of where it can cause mental distress because there's so many factors that seem to be going you know awry, and so much like arguing back and forth, the best thing you can do is, if it's something you have no control over, look away, let it work itself out, because if there's literally nothing you can do, there's no point in thinking about it. Think about what you can do something about, and then you feel empowered, you feel better.
Speaker 2:But what we all can do, and we're hearing this a lot and it ties into what we were saying earlier too. We hear the saying you know, let your light shine. You know, be a light, don't let anyone dim your light. That's a common saying now Don't let anyone dim your light, don't let it. And we say it with such simplicity and we take away from the magnitude of that statement, because we are all called to be a light and people can dim it and we allow that.
Speaker 2:That's something I had to own, that I have allowed people to dim my light, and we have to keep fighting to be what we were created to be and be as bright as possible, because that's how we change this world, you know, by being the best we that we can be, and that's how we do it. And I know we're getting close to it and I want to make sure you have, you know, a chance to have your final thoughts and then Toby yours, and then, you know, I'll bring it home and thank you again for this. This was enlightening for me. I know this was hopeful for a lot of people. So good energy, good vibes. Even through, virtually, I still can't feel you and feel your vibe, so thank you for radiating.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, share some final thoughts. You know, if a person's out there listening, they go. I want to connect with this. Can you put them on to some things that they should read, some websites they should go to? How do they start on this journey?
Speaker 3:Sure, I would just say, for me, the easiest thing and simplest thing is to listen to other people who have mastered an aspect you're looking to master and pick one or two, just really deep dive, one thing at a time, and you'll find you get way quicker results. It's one tiny step at a time, embodying that and then moving on to the next thing, because we can get so overwhelmed in our world. So, whatever that is whether it's finances, mental health, physical health it's find some, find a mentor and with that resonates for you. So Google is awesome for that. It's like Google the aspect you're looking to master and find them YouTube, audio books, physical books, just get into it, get curious, and it's more like a game, like have fun, learning something new and having a new point of perspective. It's just like take it easy on yourself, man. Like it's crazy out there it is, but we got this.
Speaker 1:Absolutely. You wanna go next. No, you can go next. Oh, you're gonna make it, I'm the closer, all right? Well, I have to ask an honest question here, and that is that if the world of the United States goes completely batshit crazy and Trump becomes president again, oh, god Will you take all of our liberals away we cannot end on that note, because they all promised to go to Canada.
Speaker 1:None of them went. This is exactly. Can you guys take them this time? No, because we don't want them anymore. And then you can give them as much Canada versus they want and they could be happy, because last time they all said, oh my God, I can't, and they never did so. Would you please take these Bleeding Heart Liberals if Trump-.
Speaker 2:I'm so glad we could edit that out, but thank you.
Speaker 1:Anyway, all right, I'm done.
Speaker 2:Are you really done this time? Well, we'll see. Well, again, I wanna thank you and I just really wanna close this note and really I would like to for the first time, I think, kind of leave on a question. I don't like the word challenge, but really give our view of something to think about. Really, if everyone could think of one thing we're depriving ourselves of because we wanna ask for it, let's start that small.
Speaker 2:What is the one thing that's important to me that I just can't ask for Because my ego, my pride, whatever, that's how those little things that we can do? Ask those and it's a powerful life question and find out why, if something we really want, why will we not ask? If we were hungry, like I said, we would ask for food, if we needed drink, we would ask before we dive thirst. But what is your soul requiring you? Let's check in with ourselves. Let's do a life check. Check in with ourselves what is my soul requiring? Because our souls all individually have a requirement. It's our job to figure out what it is and let's ask for help. So, again, thank you. Thank you again for coming until we meet again. Good perch people. Have a good day.
Speaker 1:See you on the perch Huh.
